Mr. Freeze: You've got that right. I can't believe we actually got upset and took them & their little meeting seriously.
Actually, I think it's more like an elder's training video of what NOT to do! LOL!
brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
Mr. Freeze: You've got that right. I can't believe we actually got upset and took them & their little meeting seriously.
Actually, I think it's more like an elder's training video of what NOT to do! LOL!
Finished Mystery in the bookstudy? must have been before my time [1966].
Welcome CTRWTF & Amos77. Glad to have you all here with us.
brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
Vidiot: Oh yeah! Or it would be perfect for Steven Spielberg.
Our video has reached 2700 views! Awesome! Thanks everyone for your support and kind word.
when i was looking for a quote for data-dog's topic.... wt 1966 10/1 pg 607-608. .
questionsfromreaders?.
at times there are changes in viewpoint on biblical subjects discussed in the watch tower societys publications.
Oubliette: If what you are asking is true about the apostates saying some of these things 30+ years ago. Back then the JW's believed that the 144,000 as a 'whole' or 'body' was the faithful & discreet slave and had a share in dispensing spiritual food.
United in Worship book pg 120:
These, too, would need spiritual food, and it would be served to them by the composite “slave,” Christ’s spirit-anointed servants. To please Jehovah, we need to accept the instruction he provides through this channel and act in full harmony with it.
Just another change they've flipped-flopped.
when i was looking for a quote for data-dog's topic.... wt 1966 10/1 pg 607-608. .
questionsfromreaders?.
at times there are changes in viewpoint on biblical subjects discussed in the watch tower societys publications.
I came across this gem while looking for something else....
WT 81 3/1 pg 29:
WHY ADJUSTMENTS IN UNDERSTANDING?
Some may ask: ‘If Jehovah’s Witnesses are getting “food at the proper time,” why have their views on certain teachings changed from time to time?’ The Bible answers: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.” (Prov. 4:18) Even as the congregation in the first century had only partial knowledge, so it is with the “faithful and discreet slave” today. Knowledge of many spiritual matters will become complete only as God’s purposes are worked out in completion. (1 Cor. 13:9-12) The “slave” is not divinely inspired but continues to search the Scriptures and carefully scrutinize world events, as well as the situation of God’s people, so as to understand the ongoing fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Because of human limitations, at times there may be an incomplete or incorrect understanding of some matter that may require correction later.
oh man what a week!
where to begin?.
so, on mon the 13 th we had our video released by jj/ray of jwstruggle, which is going great and we've had some great supportive comments, but we sent the link to a friend of ours who is a current jw but knows ttatt, and he replies, "why would you do something like that?
Yep. disgusting the mind control they have over people. But unfortunately, they've made such a big deal over the 'mentally diseased' apostates, no JW will even listen.
oh man what a week!
where to begin?.
so, on mon the 13 th we had our video released by jj/ray of jwstruggle, which is going great and we've had some great supportive comments, but we sent the link to a friend of ours who is a current jw but knows ttatt, and he replies, "why would you do something like that?
And since when do Non-JW family members get dragged into cong. matters? Or what they perceive is a cong. matter.
i was wondering if anyone here is working on sparlock fiction or other sparlock artwork.
i remember that there was a lot of talk about that last year.. i can't say much right now, but i'm working on a novel that relates to sparlock the warrior wizard and a fictionalized version of the "summer of sparlock" and its aftermath.
the main character is a person with unusual abilities who resembles the toy wizard in certain important ways.
First thing, as a fellow writer, when it's complete and before you do anything with it, register it for a legal Copyright.org
brother of the hawk, newly enlightened & gojira, recorded an elder's meeting on 5/7/03.
both does a great job of defending me and making the elders look foolish!.
thank you raypublisher/jj and jwstruggle for the awesome job you did on it.. follow up story was not recorded but we will post it here hopefully over the weekend.. enjoy, it's pretty hilarious how they try to control us and come after me on a work of fiction!.
Leaving quietly: You rascal you! Writing things like that!
All kidding aside, it amazes me watching it 10 yrs later after we've learned TTATT, of how 'police-ing' they are. They're like Stormtroopers serving the evil Emperor.
oh man what a week!
where to begin?.
so, on mon the 13 th we had our video released by jj/ray of jwstruggle, which is going great and we've had some great supportive comments, but we sent the link to a friend of ours who is a current jw but knows ttatt, and he replies, "why would you do something like that?
Oh man what a week! Where to begin?
So, on Mon the 13 th we had our video released by JJ/Ray of JWStruggle, which is going great and we've had some great supportive comments, but we sent the link to a friend of ours who is a current JW but knows TTATT, and he replies, "Why would you do something like that? It's not going to help your case with the Elders at all!"
Case? Um, we didn't know we had a case.
But my daughter posted this topic a few months ago about what was going on with our family & the elders:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/246388/1/The-time-is-near-for-my-families-crucification
But I wanted to update a few things.
So the same night our video was released our Cousin Elder and another brother show up that evening UNANNOUNCED to talk about some 'concerns' they have. Cousin Elder introduced the other brother only as 'John' no last name, nothing about him being an elder in our congregation or anything. Not the COBE, or any other brother we know. Just John [CO?]. Oh crap! They know about the video. NOPE, it's about Hubby showing his NON-JW brother apostate pictures [ subliminal images in WT literature] when he was visiting him. Hubby assured them that he only had WT literature and explained that it was the 9/15/2005 WT that he showed his brother. Cousin Elder turns to Hubby and asks, "So what is the big deal about a few pictures then?" So then we explained that because of Hubby's brother showing their mom the pictures, she immediately started calling everyone we know and telling them that we've gone apostate. Never asked where the pictures came from, just tried and convicted us of all of this.
So Cousin Elder asks, "Why would you show him those then?" Hubby replied that his brother liked artwork that had images hidden in the picture and why does he have to excuse showing his brother WT literature when it's true.
Silence.
Several other things were discussed. John had very little to say. We were never asked if we still believed the GB was the channel for God's earthly org. or any of those questions that usually come up during a JC meeting.
But Sunday morning when I went to get the phone tie-in to see if 'John' was a CO visiting by chance, my pin # to get into their tie-in had been revoked. Haven't heard anything else yet. But the pin # "no longer authorized by the local congregation" was pretty telling of our execution.
Just for showing a non-JW WT literature,
WOW!